In this episode:
Jessica explores the emotional cost of people-pleasing and the liberation found in breaking the “good girl” script. Reflecting on her own experiences before and after sobriety, she shares how unlearning the need to be liked led to deeper self-worth and authentic healing. This episode speaks directly to women in recovery who are learning to say no, set boundaries, and reclaim their truth—without apology. Jessica leaves listeners with heartfelt reflection questions and a bold reminder: you are still good, even when you’re no longer the “good girl.”
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Transcript:
00:03 – Jessica Dueñas (Host)
Hey everyone, welcome back to Bottomless is Sober. I’m your host, jessica Duenas, and so glad to have you here this week. So, whether this is your first time listening or, you know, reaching out to your support system or simply just breathing through a tough day, that is a victory, right? That is recovery in action. So I just want to take a moment and recognize that Now, today’s episode is, for all my recovering people pleasers, especially if you have been socialized as a woman, right, and you were taught, directly or indirectly, that being nice is the same thing as being lovable, right? I think for so many of us, that was definitely a message that we were taught, and essentially, we’re talking about something that I’m calling breaking the good girl script, because that internalized role that so many of us were handed early in life right To be agreeable, to be helpful, be easy to be around. Don’t rock the boat, don’t say no. Smile, and especially smiling at family members that creep you out, right, even when you’re dying inside, right. Smile no matter what. Being in recovery means breaking from those things, and so I want to open with a quote that I absolutely love, and I’m even using it in sobriety support meetings that I lead, and it’s from Nedra Glover Tawwab, the author of Set Boundaries, find Peace, and she wrote this line. She wrote when you consistently prioritize yourself over others, you diminish your self-worth. People-pleasing is not kindness, it’s self-neglect in disguise. So take a deep breath and let that quote sink in.
02:04
I don’t know about you, but I spent years confusing people-pleasing with kindness. You know, I thought that I was being a good friend, a good daughter, a good employee, a good partner, right Like the desperate, clinging girlfriend. But really I was abandoning myself over and over again and I wore the good girl mask so well that most people could not see how much I was suffering. And I’ll be honest with you, I wore that mask so well. There were times I couldn’t see it either. I remember there was a time back when I drank where I was just constantly saying yes to everything, you know, whether it was a social gathering, whether it was a work commitment or favors for people you know who rarely return the energy. I was just always in this yes mode, and one weekend I had three different events lined up back to back and I was just always in a space of burnout. Right, I was emotionally raw and I knew deep down that I needed just some time alone. But I didn’t want to seem flaky, I didn’t want to seem ungrateful, so I pushed through. But what did I do? I smiled when I didn’t want to smile. I drank, I drank heavily, I charmed other people, I made other people laugh, and then I went home and got really, really wasted and probably cried and, just you know, woke up on my couch hung over. I wish that I could say that that was rare for me. I wish that I could say that that’s a rare experience period. But you know, it’s not. It’s not rare, and I’m sure some of you listening can be like oh yeah, I’ve been there before.
03:43
What I’ve learned in sobriety, and what I’m still learning, is that practicing kindness, the practice of real kindness, absolutely includes yourself. You have to be the first one who you’re being kind to. Being liked by others is nice and all, but it means nothing if you are rejecting your own truth in the process. Sometimes the most loving thing that you can do is say no, not just to others, but also to that part of you that still believes that your worth is tied to your usefulness, letting go of that good girl script, you all. It has not been easy and it still is not easy, it’s still a struggle for me. But what I realize is that every time I choose myself that, every time I say actually I can’t make it or I need time to think, or this doesn’t feel good to me, what I start to find is that I feel stronger on the inside, I become freer and I get closer to the woman that I’m becoming in recovery. And this is someone who’s been sober almost five years, right. And here’s the thing recovery. And this is someone who’s been sober almost five years, right. And here’s the thing for women in sobriety, this kind of work can feel especially radical, right, like especially badass.
05:02
You know, we were so often praised for being selfless, for putting everyone else before ourselves. We’re told that we’re strong when we stay quiet, when we carry the load and when we don’t ask for help. But sobriety actually flips that upside down. It tells us you matter too. You and your needs are valid. Your peace is not a luxury, it’s a requirement. And so when we do these things, when we believe these things, that is when we’re actually practicing strength.
05:37
But I also want to recognize that that’s where some grief can come into our process, right, once we choose to break the script. We do often have to let go of certain identities, certain relationships or certain expectations that we’ve had. We’re going to disappoint some people, we may lose some friends, we might see family dynamics more clearly, which might mean that we start to see family dynamics more painfully, and we may feel like we’re walking away from a version of ourselves that we’ve tried so hard to perfect and in many ways we are. But at the end of the day, we’re also walking toward something better. Right, we’re walking away from an old version of ourselves and we’re walking toward authenticity. We are walking toward boundaries, toward peace, presence, wholeness.
06:31
So if you are in a season, right, where you’re unlearning people pleasing, where you’re trying to say no more often, or where you’re realizing that being nice has just caught you or not caught you, cost you too much, you know, please stop and understand this. You are not selfish, you are not broken. You are not broken. You are becoming free, you are allowed to take up space and you’re absolutely allowed to be misunderstood. You are allowed to say no without having to do like a whole 10 paragraph text explanation. Right, no itself is a complete sentence and you are still good. Right, you are still a good person even when you’re not. The quote unquote good girl, right.
07:19
And so just some reflection questions for you to take with you. Um, these can be great journal prompts or just something to sit with throughout the day. But first question to think about what messages were you given growing up? You know directly or indirectly, about being a good girl or being liked. How has people pleasing shown up in your life, especially in your journey towards sobriety? What does it look like for you today to choose yourself over others’ expectations?
07:52
And I want to recognize that this episode I’ve mostly talked toward women, but I also want to recognize that you know men, there have absolutely been expectations placed on you that sobriety flips upside down, right, and so feel free to take this and adapt it to your experience as a man. I’m just obviously speaking from my perspective as a woman, but you know the same expectations placed on people based off, you know, gender happens to men as well, and so, anyway, if this episode resonated with you, please consider sharing it with a friend or leaving a review. Right and again, if no one’s told you today, you are doing an amazing job, even when the work is messy, even when the healing feels slow or incredibly painful and you want to throw up. You know you’re here, you’re showing up and you’re doing it, so keep on keeping on. So thanks so much for spending this time with me. Until next time, be absolutely gentle with yourself. Being bottomless is not a part of your story anymore. Thanks y’all.
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